Thanks for the info! I found a refference to people using a box made of 1/4" mesh hardwear cloth wide enough to sweep in with a straw broom. Placing the buds in this box and sweeping them about removes the thorns. We did it with expanded lath and a broom--it worked great! We did find that fruits, even very young (i.e. bloomed yesterday) are totally NOT worth picking and eating. A test with a group of friends found us all in agreement that the taste and texture was no good in the post-bloom fruits, but is very pleasant in the buds yet to flower.